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February 22, 2009

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KipEsquire

I'll take your concerns to the next (i.e., truly libertarian) level:

First, I don't see "bestow the status of civil unions" -- or, for that matter, "bestow the status of marriage" -- listed among the enumerated powers of the federal government. The limitations of Article I may seem a frivolous irrelevancy to Blankenhorn and Rauch, but some of us still care about such things.

Second, there is simply no such thing as First Amendment "separation of hospital and state" or First Amendment "separation of adoption agency and state" or First Amendment "separation of parochial school and state." Why, exactly, are Blankenhorn and Rauch taking as an axiom that such absurdities must be conceded ex ante?

If we are going to have anti-discrimination laws -- a noble debate in its own right -- and if we are going to offer a "church and state exemption" to such laws -- another debate always worth having -- then such an exemption should apply to the church qua church, and to nothing else.

Nan Hunter

As to your first point, I don't think there is an Article I problem so long as the federal civil union status is simply an eligibility category for purposes of federal programs and laws.

Debra

Why not just adopt the European model that churches do not solemnize civil marriages? Everyone who wants benefits get a civil marriage from civil officials. Religious marriage is handled by the church and is independent of any civil status. Americans seem incapable of separating civil and religious marriages at present, but a European model would make the difference far more obvious.

Mad Professah

We may see the California Supreme Court move to exactly that solution suggested by Debra in California tomorrow.

Nan Hunter

I'm a strong supporter of the position that Debra suggests; I just don't see that happening in conservative sections of the U.S. for a really (!) long time. I hope that Mad Professah is right, and that California ends up there.

marriage and sex

hi friends Rauch peace proposal on marriage is a perfect post, I would like get more information about this!

Wedding planner

i suppose that the European model would be satisfatory for everybody ! If you want a traditional marriage maybe you should reconsider, but if you are so open minded, than adopt a civil marriage and that's it !

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